This is the biggest concern. We often purchase the rights to upload our contest videos for members to view, but they are very large (60-100MB). We can't upload them to an outside web site for fear of invoking the wrath of copyright infringement. Will this limit change soon?
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YouTube is loaded with videos of Quartets and Choruses, and every Tom Dick & Harry. I don't load original videos into groupanizer, I just embed the Youtube URL. As a question, who do you purchase these rights ti upload your contest videos from and what do they charge for a typical 2 song contest set.
John Breckenridge, Bass First Capital Chorus, Soundscape,
Wow, crazy message board...(acccidentally posted to the parent post instead of a reply)
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Youtube is loaded with content, and far as I'm aware, practically none of them comply with the need to obtain synchronization rights. Personally, I don't care - nobody is going to lose a dime of revenue off of our uploading our chorus contest video for a 67 score. But our treasurer is very particular about following the letter of the law, and we stay out of trouble as a result.
The way I understand it (and I haven't discussed it at length), we have specific permission from the district (who produces and distributes the video) to post it on our website, provided that only our members may view it. I have no idea what they charge. It can't be too much.
Now, I don't know how groupanizer is run - only on the groupanizer server, or gets loaded into our server. I would presume if we loaded the software locally, like I would do with wordpress, the size of the file shouldn't matter.
Jordan Truesdell
VP - Music & Performance
Virginia Gentlemen
Roanoke, Virginia
Since I don't know who you are or what district you are talking about, or what country you are located it and you haven't discussed this at length with anyone. I don't see why I should be spinning my wheels. Goodnight
John Breckenridge, Bass First Capital Chorus, Soundscape,
Wait a minute - don't get defensive. I don't agree with copyright law the way it's written, but even groupanizer claims you could avoid a $200,000 RIAA lawsuit by using their software. If you're torqued about the message board comment...well, I'm not accustomed to threaded discussions; the new post I created didn't end up where I thought it would, and there didn't appear to be an option to delete it.
I was just curious about the 8MB limitation, whether it was still there, and if its a limitation of the software or of the server. If we end up installing the software on our server, would that limit still exist? Can we only run groupanizer from the groupanizer server?
I know just enough about modern content management systems to get utterly lost. 90% of my experience with web content is building sites from scratch using html code built using text editors in the min 1990s. I expect my chorus to rebuild their website this year, and honestly was trying to figure out if (and how) we would have to change what we do to implement something like this.
Jordan Truesdell
VP - Music & Performance
Virginia Gentlemen
Roanoke, Virginia
Hey Jordan,
The practical limit for uploading files via PHP (the language of Drupal and therefore Groupanizer as well!) is about 10MB. So you can push it up about that high without worrying too much.
Groupanizer will help you track downloads, but that's so you can be sure you've paid whatever license fees are appropriate.
I am pretty sure that some groups post longer videos to YouTube or one of the other video sharing sites under a private account, and then link to there from Groupanizer.
Cheers,
Tom
Thanks...that's what I was looking for.
Jordan Truesdell
VP - Music & Performance
Virginia Gentlemen
Roanoke, Virginia
Jordan Truesdell
VP - Music & Performance
Virginia Gentlemen
Roanoke, Virginia
So lay it out. What country are you talking about, there are Groupanizer users from many countries. Talk to your Treasurer. Lets deal in facts not dreams. Now I have a meeting to go to.
John Breckenridge, Bass First Capital Chorus, Soundscape,
Fair enough. This is the US - MAD, to be exact. I was incorrect about the contest videos, they were posted on the MAD site for us to view/download. What we posted to our site was portions of a concert video we took ourselves, solely for review of our performance (faces, gestures, vocal performance).
I'm the Music VP for my chapter, and know that we have not obtained synchronization rights. I have spoken with Neil Keihm, who is in charge of clearances for the Mid Atl. District, in the past about using video taken by MAD for marketing purposes. In discussions with him (or perhaps someone at HQ in Nashville), he brought up the synchronization rights issue.
I'll freely admit that I don't know what the syncrhonization rights would cost to obtain for unlimited internet distribution. I've been led to believe that for a chous with a total annual operating budget which flirts with $10k, it's not a viable option.
Personally, I don't care what everyone else does. I've been on the wrong end of a $2000 settlement offer for some website thumbnail images I though I'd bought the rights to (thanks Getty!), so I'm a bit more cautious than I once was.
Back to my (followup) question: is the 8MB limit a function of the software, or of the server.
Jordan Truesdell
VP - Music & Performance
Virginia Gentlemen
Roanoke, Virginia